With "Friends" Like This -- Credibility On The Net

We all get tarred with the same brush if this type of ignorance is not exposed -- and exposed by OUR side first.

TMR and Redstate have enough weight in Google and Yahoo search engines to guarantee that we will come up very high in any search of this issue. By coming out strongly against this type of stupidity we demonstrate our own honesty on the issues.

If the left publicizes it first as a GOTCHA against us, we look weak when we do disown the clowns who purvey this krap!

Whatever you or any other conservative does is not going to change the radical left. There are those who will tar with a broad brush as EVIL anybody who does not conform to their political beliefs. They will be aided by the drive-by media to frame the narrative however they wish to frame it.

The bottom line is that you do good when you expose this for what it is, and you don't need to hold your breath until the left acknowledges your good work. I think you'd turn blue first before receiving kudos from them.

John Wayne: "You're a persistent cuss, pilgrim."

Well, I ain't turnin' BLUE

John Wayne: "You're a persistent cuss, pilgrim."

Like in the link I gave to the Next Right the other day, the guy is a sleaze of the highest order. He shouldn’t be the mouth piece for the movement.

Fighting for conservatism one day at a time.

They try to frame the narrative of a conspiracy of Corsi with Bush/Cheney/McCain, and it is so laughable because Corsi is completely opposite of these Republicans with all of his conspiratorial articles about a North America Union plot by Bush/Cheney to destroy the USA. Oh yeah, Corsi is one of us. Riiiiiiiight. HAHAHA

John Wayne: "You're a persistent cuss, pilgrim."

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Yes it is absurd and indeed damages our cause for blogs to make up stories. Great work finding shutting down that sort of crap.

On the other hand you might want to step back a bit and understand that while Obama may say he has always been a Christian it ain't necessarily so. Daniel Pipes does a good job of explaining it and I covered all the arguments on my blog if you are interested.

Pierre Legrand
pierrelegrand.net

attended Lutheran services with my Grandmother. I was never a Lutheran -- but I enjoyed being there in Church with my Grandmother. I liked the music, even if I found it hard sometimes to follow along -- they didn't always sing all of the verses.

Later, I attended services with my Aunt, who was a Baptist. Again, I enjoyed being with my aunt in church.

Over the many years I have attended many different denominations -- even Catholic services with friends.

I hardly think that all of those different denominations would consider me apostate because I no longer attend their churches.

Daniel Pipes is quite probably right, Obama did occasionally attend the Mosque with his stepfather -- that does not make him a Muslim.

As I said, let's beat this guy like a rented mule based on the issues!

Let me quote extensively from my own blog.

The hoax being that Barack is a Muslim. But what if he is? Not by choice but by technicality? I give you snippet from an excellent article by Daniel Pipes. Pay attention in particular to the highlighted text in bold.

Does any of the above information from the Chicago Tribune article refute my analysis, as MMfA contends? It raises questions about two details in the Los Angeles Times account (the accuracy of the Catholic school’s registration form and the reliability of Zulfan Adi as a source on Obama). But on the larger issue of Obama’s religious practices during his Jakarta years, it confirms the Times account. Note in particular three excerpts from Barker’s article:

“Interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia” – implying he was an irregularly practicing Muslim.
“Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers, a few neighbors said” – confirming that he did pray in the mosque.
“Obama’s 3rd-grade teacher at the Catholic school, who lived near the family [said that] ‘Rarely, Barry went to the mosque with Lolo’” – confirming that Obama attended mosque services.
All this matters, for if Obama once was a Muslim, he is now what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed. Were he elected president of the United States, this status, clearly, would have large potential implications for his relationship with the Muslim world.

In sum: Obama was an irregularly practicing Muslim who rarely or occasionally prayed with his step-father in a mosque. This precisely substantiates my statement that he “for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian step-father.”

Why do technicalities matter? Because Barack was so adamant about never being a Muslim all of this calls into question his integrity…he is supposed to be different. eh? From Daniel Pipes again.

As Barack Obama’s candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate’s integrity.

Obama asserted in December, “I’ve always been a Christian,” and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. “The only connection I’ve had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father’s side came from that country [Kenya]. But I’ve never practiced Islam.” In February, he claimed: “I have never been a Muslim. … other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71] I have very little connection to the Islamic religion.”

Daniel Pipes is quite probably right, Obama did occasionally attend the Mosque with his stepfather -- that does not make him a Muslim. As I said, let's beat this guy like a rented mule based on the issues!

Terribly sorry but you may not understand what it takes to be a Muslim. And yes indeed let us beat this guy like a rented mule on the issues. And ONE of those issues is his penchant for lying about his past. Actually that may be the biggest issue of all...what the hell is this guy hiding. Papers detailing his dealings with Ayers being withheld by Universities, out right lying about Wright and now this...yes let us beat him on the issues. But first we have to smoke him out on all of the issues...such as his lying.

Pierre Legrand
pierrelegrand.net

It's true, according to the standard you and Pipes are applying. Muslims believe that every human being is born a Muslim--it's the default mode. You have to choose some other path--stray into error--to stop being one.

David is dead right on this one--on the merits, that is. In terms of tactics, it is probably true that keeping the Muslim canard alive will help to defeat Obama in November. Conservatives have to make a choice as to whether winning that way is worth the cost to our principles.

“Equality, rightly understood as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences; wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism." --Barry Goldwater